April 15 2024 Picard

Star Trek has recast a fan favorite. In the new Picard episode, “Watcher,” Jean-Luc Picard shockingly encounters his oldest friend in 2024. But this person has no idea who he is. Longtime fans of The Next Generation might be confused by this turn of events, but luckily, showrunner Terry Matalas has the answer. Spoilers ahead.

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Guinan (Ito Aghayere) takes Picard (Patrick Stewart) to meet “the Watcher” at the end of the episode.CBS/Paramount

Picard meets 2024 Guinan

In Picard Season 2, Episode 4, Jean-Luc beams to the coordinates Anges Jurati stole from the Borg Queen’s mind in Episode 3. And once he’s there, he finds himself in a very familiar Los Angeles bar, Ten Forward. Just like in the first episode of Season 2, Picard meets a version of Guinan; only this time, she’s several centuries younger.

The Picard team did not try to digitally de-age Whoopi Goldberg for this scene, but instead, they cast actress Ito Aghayere as the 2024 version of Guinan. Pre-existing Trek canon established Guinan as a traveling El-Aurian, an alien who slowly ages. Both The Next Generation and Picard never reveal precisely how old Guinan is, but she’s several centuries old in all iterations, including in this new 2024 version.

In “Watcher,” Jean-Luc finds Guinan packing up her bar, getting ready to leave Earth forever. She’s been hanging around on Earth for a while and easily passing for a human, which was previously seen in The Next Generation's two-parter “Time’s Arrow.” This leads to one huge question most Trekkies might have: If Guinan has lived on Earth since at least 1893, why doesn’t she recognize Picard from that TNG time travel adventure?

Guinan (Whoopi Goldberg) and Picard (Patrick Stewart) in the TNG classic “Time’s Arrow Part 2.”CBS/Paramount

Why Guinan doesn’t know Picard

In “Watcher,” Guinan tells Jean-Luc, “I don’t know you, old man!” Even when Picard tells her his name toward the end of the episode, she’s familiar with his name, but she still doesn’t actually remember him.

Assuming this is the same character who lived in San Francisco in 1893 and remained on Earth after that point, you might think she should remember Jean-Luc. In “Time’s Arrow,” Picard and Guinan experienced a pre-destination paradox in which Guinan actually encouraged him to lead an away mission to make sure he was sent back in time to meet her in the first place. Picard then went back in time and hung out with Data, Guinan, and Mark Twain (Jerry Hardin).

But now because the future timeline of Starfleet has been wiped-out, none of that happened. Inverse reached out to Picard co-showrunner Terry Matalas, who explained it like this:

“This Guinan wouldn't remember Picard because in this alternate timeline, the TNG episode "Time's Arrow" never happened. Because there was no Federation, those events did not play out the same. No previous relationship exists. However, she still was likely traveling to Earth and, as we know, she hung around a bit. So this Guinan is different. But she, of course, can sense something is off. She's going through a kind of time-sickness thanks to Q's meddling with the timeline.”

Matalas didn’t hint at any more of what Q is doing to the timeline. But, like in “Yesterday’s Enterprise,” Guinan feels some kind of alteration to the timeline, even though she doesn’t express it the same way she did in TNG. This time, Jean-Luc confronts her with something she said to him in an alternate future, which makes her become disoriented and nauseous.

Throughout TNG and the film Generations, El-Aurians have had a unique relationship with time perception, making them kind of the Trek equivalent of Time Lords from Doctor Who. That said, we never really have known the extent of Guinan’s powers.

With a younger Guinan back in the mix, it’s possible some of the oldest questions we’ve had about the enigmatic bartender could be finally answered. Then again, in some ways, this version of the character is entirely new.

Picard airs new episodes on Paramount+ on Thursdays.

Review: Star Trek: Picard Season 2 Episode 4 “Watcher”

This week’s Star Trek: Picard raises some major questions about the admiral’s mission in 2024 but does so via a weak episode that is brimming with questionable narrative decisions.

Thanks to Agnes Jurati (Alison Pill) interfacing with the Borg Queen (Annie Wersching) in the previous episode, Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) knows where to start looking in Los Angeles for the Watcher, the mysterious entity that can supposedly help Picard and his crew correct the damage Q did to the timeline. Before leaving for L.A., however, Picard and Jurati take a break from La Sirena and instead venture inside the dilapidated Picard estate, which has been abandoned for years (and apparently won’t see any other Picard occupants for many years to come).

The reason for leaving La Sirena is a frivolous one, to say the least. The ship apparently lacks heat while it repairs itself following the Borg Queen-Jurati encounter, so Jurati, shivering as she is, is the reason why Picard suggests they go elsewhere to start a fire. Yes, they leave the ship with a semi-operational Borg Queen onboard. This is but the first in some questionable, uncharacteristic decision-making in “Watcher.”

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Madeline Wise as Yvette Picard

In the Picard estate, Jean-Luc relives some childhood memories, including how his mother, Yvette Picard (Madeline Wise), used to play a verse from “Non, je ne regrette rien” whenever he was feeling scared. This scene, at least, links to elsewhere in this season to when Picard hears that song played. What prominence this song will play in the future will likely be just one narrative thread that started in Picard’s childhood and continues throughout the older man’s adventures.

Otherwise, Picard and Jurati’s excursion to the Picard estate reveals key information: April 15 – three days away – is the date when something critical happens that changes the future as they know it. The duo learns this thanks to Jurati’s subconscious invoking the number 15, be it moving 15 beads on the abacus, picking up volume 15 of the Encyclopedia Britannica, or grabbing a bottle of wine dated 1915. Picard picking up on this pattern is, shall we say, fortuitous, but it definitely results in adding some urgency to the story. With time of the essence, Picard soon sets off to L.A. to find the Watcher before it’s too late.

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Ito Aghayere as young Guinan

Picard beams into L.A. (with no regard to trying to prevent people from seeing him) and finds himself at a familiar location: 10 Forward Avenue. However, the bar is in dire straits, and Picard soon finds out from its owner that the establishment is closing down. But who is the owner of this bar in 2024? Who else but Guinan (Ito Aghayere). Indeed, this Guinan is 477 years younger than the one Picard last spoke about during the season premiere.

The younger age isn’t the only thing making Guinan stick out from the one we know and love. The Guinan of 2024 is aggressive, distraught, boozy, and abrasive, all opposite qualities of Whoopi Goldberg’s incarnation. This characterization is reflective of Guinan’s life in this century; she laments how she has given up on the people of Earth after witnessing their disregard for the planet and themselves for so long. Yes, this critique of our present-day Earth is as heavy-handed as it sounds; such heavy-handedness is a criticism we leveled against this show in the previous episode, and it doesn’t seem to be going away.

From the start of Picard and company’s adventures in the 21st century, this show showed no signs of being subtle in its dressing down of contemporary society. Much of Guinan’s dialogue in this episode falls into the “telling” us the category of describing Earth’s drawbacks, but to its credit “Watcher” does show us a fascinating manifestation of Picard‘s anti-21st century message: if someone as wholesome, patient, and gentle as the Guinan of the 24th century can be such an angry person in the 21st century, that means something happens between the past and the future that makes her character change drastically for the better. That’s a good sign, at least. The fact that Guinan does indeed become a friendly, unassuming person is proof people do change, even if it takes longer than it should, which indeed is the message Picard asserts to Guinan before they part ways in this episode.

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Patrick Stewart as Picard and Ito Aghayere as young Guinan

Guinan is well-connected, it seems, in the 21st century. While she isn’t the Watcher Picard is looking for, she does know who this mysterious person is, a nugget of information the El-Aurian only told Picard after learning his name. This begs the question: why did Guinan recognize Picard’s name and react so strongly to that realization? Moreover, how does that help inform her friendship with him in the future? We don’t learn the answer to these questions in this episode, but Guinan ultimately leads Picard to the person he is looking for: Laris (Orla Brady), or at least someone who looks like Laris (sans pointy ears). We don’t know anything about this person, since the reveal came at the end of the episode, but we are certainly intrigued. Guinan’s description of the Watchers is eerily similar to that of the role Gary Seven plays in The Original Series episode “Assignment: Earth,” where his mission is to ensure humanity develops in the way it’s supposed to. Perhaps there is a connection?

While Picard is searching for the Watcher, Seven of Nine (Jeri Ryan) and Raffaela Musiker (Michelle Hurd) are trying to rescue Cristóbal Rios (Santiago Cabrera) from ICE captivity. After investigating the clinic where Rios was, their first stop is the L.A. police. On the bus ride there, Star Trek fans are treated to a wholly unexpected but hilarious callback to another Star Trek time travel story.

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Santiago Cabrera as Rios

Sitting next to Seven and Raffi on the bus is a spiked-hair man playing obnoxious music from a boom box – music that may sound familiar to fans of “the one with the whales.” Yes, this is the same “Punk on the Bus” from Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home,” played again by Kirk Thatcher. He is rocking out to an updated version of “I Hate You,” the song written by Thatcher for The Voyage Home, but luckily it seems he has learned some manners in the 36 years since his Vulcan neck pinch from Spock; when Seven asks him to turn down his music, he does so immediately and apologetically. Sure, the odds are infinitesimal that Seven and Raffi would encounter the same man, playing the same song, in this same state as where Kirk and Spock met him, but this unrealistic luck is totally fine for such fun tongue-in-cheek reference to Picard‘s time travel lineage.

After having a not-too-helpful interaction with the L.A. police (an interaction that takes no pains to hide our characters’ frustrations with the law enforcement of the 21st century), Raffi decides to do something incredibly reckless: break into a police car and use its laptop to find Rios. This is where this episode loses us.

First, even though she is still driven by grief over Elnor’s death and her need to fix the timeline to possibly bring him back, Raffi knows the implications of the Butterfly Effect, the idea Jurati warned them all about before they started exploring L.A. Even with the agency generated from knowing Rios is about to “disappear” in ICE custody, why does she risk drawing attention to herself by breaking a police car’s window, in front of the police station, no matter how stealthily she is able to do it? There are likely cameras everywhere! What’s more, it is incredibly convenient Raffi is so easily able to use the police computer, despite it being relatively ancient technology. But in any case, what happens next is even more questionable: Seven, in an attempt to avoid any police interruption while Raffi uses the computer, decides to take the driver’s seat and peels out of the police station and drives like a lunatic to where they think Rios is heading.

Again, this pair knows about the stakes in possibly altering the past, so why do they make such a spectacle of themselves? Why does Seven drive so recklessly through L.A. – driving on sidewalks, one-way streets, and running red lights – even when they aren’t being pursued? It’s such an uncharacteristic move by Seven to do this, just moments after reminding Raffi of the importance of protecting their presence. These scenes with Raffi and Seven in the police car are filmed like a one-car car chase, and it’s jarring. Honestly, these scenes feel like trailer bait, and a way to generate action in an otherwise action-less episode. The episode would have been fine without it!

Thanks to their jaunt through L.A., the pair does need to be rescued from the police eventually, and that’s where Jurati and the Borg Queen come in handy. Given the state of La Sirena’s disrepair, the transporter systems need an extra boost to bring Raffi and Seven to a place where they can help Rios; that boost is provided by the Borg Queen but at a price.

“Poor Agnes Jurati, doomed to be the afterthought, left behind again. Not to me. You’re more than you let on – than they can see. Smart, cunning, and remarkably more cruel than I could have predicted.”The Borg Queen to Jurati.

In one revealing scene, the Borg Queen rhetorically undresses Jurati and exposes the scientist’s loneliness and urge to feel connected with people – something Jurati has hinted at in previous episodes. Indeed, the Borg Queen likens Jurati’s urge to feel connected with people as what assimilation is like. As Jurati reasons, she and the Queen are alike in that way. Jurati posits that if the Queen helps transport Raffi and Seven away from the police, she will open herself up, rhetorically, to the Queen. This is an unexpected but intriguing step in the twisted relationship the two are beginning to form, and how such a relationship impacts the Queen, Jurati, and the rest of the crew is a lingering question we’re looking forward to seeing answered. Based on her walking away from the Queen at the end of the episode, Jurati, for her part, seems wary of the promise she made to the Queen.

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John de Lancie as Q

The twisted relationship between the Queen and Jurati is just one of the many questions this episode confronts its viewers with. We are dying to know who planted these Watchers across the galaxy (although this is something we likely won’t know for a few episodes to come). Learning that they were planted around the galaxy to help protect the destiny of certain individuals is all Guinan explains to Picard just before he meets one of the Watchers, but this one brief line about the Watcher’s origins opens a universe of possibilities. And why has Q (John de Lancie) lost his omnipotent powers? As we see in the episode’s final minutes, Q is inhabiting the same time and place as Picard and crew but realizes he has unexpectedly become just like everyone else. The mystery deepens!

Taken together, we’re sure “Watcher” will be remembered as a transition episode, one that raises a few key questions for the viewer, instead of serving on its own as a noteworthy standalone episode of Star Trek: Picard.

Stray Thoughts:

  • This episode is the third time we’ve heard “Non, je ne regrette rien” in this season: the first was during the Stargazer‘s destruction in the premiere, and the second was when Picard was interacting with Q on the chateau in “Penance.”
  • Was Rios the only dark-haired and scruffy man to visit the clinic recently? Because it would certainly seem that way considering how quickly the clinic employee remembered Rios.
  • It’s at the beginning of this episode that Picard – or anyone else, for that matter – is only now concerned about somebody or something spotting La Sirena. No one thought to engage the cloak when they first arrived in the 21st century?
  • Jurati calling Picard “Dixon Hill” is a reference to the character Picard played on the holodeck in various TNG episodes.
  • This episode tells us that Picard and crew landed on Earth on April 12, 2024. Mark your calendars!
  • We see a bag of Lay’s chips in this episode, a rare instance of product placement in Star Trek productions.
  • Rios doesn’t get much to do in this episode. He starts in ICE custody after being captured at the clinic in the last episode and ends in ICE custody on a bus, which is where Seven and Raffi will presumably try to rescue him in the next episode. Sure, we see more sparks fly between him and Teresa Ramirez (Sol Rodriguez), but overall we hope to see more of the talented Cabrera next week.
  • Guinan tells Picard she’s been called an El-Aurian on Earth only a handful of times, which begs the question: who else knew of Guinan’s alienage?
  • This episode is the first mention of Af-Kel, an El-Aurian time sickness that happens when members of that species hear the same words spoken to them in the past as words they say to someone else in the future. But this does raise some questions, including how complex do the sentences spoken in the past and future have to be? If Picard merely addresses Guinan by name in the past, and Guinan at some point said her own name to Picard in the future, would she feel Af-Kel?
  • Agnes asserts to the Queen that “cloaking doesn’t matter right now,” and that what’s important is that the transporter gets online. Agnes, cloaking matters when you are trying to hide from 21st-century eyes!
  • When exactly did Guinan take Picard’s combadge from him without him knowing?
  • The newspaper Q is reading at the end of the episode mentions “Brynner Fights Unionization.” “Brynner” might very well be Christopher Brynner, a businessman Jadzia Dax encounters in DS9‘s “Past Tense.”

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Why did Guinan not recognize Picard in 2024?

Back to the Future As the showrunner, Terry Matalas has explained, “This Guinan wouldn't remember Picard because in this alternate timeline, the TNG story 'Time's Arrow' never happened. Because there was no Federation, those events did not play out the same.

Who is the woman at the end of Picard season 2 episode4?

Particularly the moment the two shared where she talked about worrying that Picard had forgotten who he is. The episode closes out with Q trying to meddle with the mind of a blond woman (Penelope Mitchell) who has dreams of exploring space.

Did Rios leave Picard?

Season 2 of Star Trek: Picard is complete and four of the main cast will not be returning to the series. Actors Santiago Cabrera (Cristóbal Rios), Alison Pill (Dr. Agnes Jurati), Evan Evagora (Elnor), and Isa Briones (Soji Asha) have announced their departure from the show, which will conclude with a third season.

Why is Picard in 2024?

Needing to set history on its rightful course, Picard's gang traveled back to 2024, when Q created a divergence by stopping Renée Picard's Europa flight. Star Trek: Picard's season 2 finale reveals Q's true intentions were far less villainous than his old nemesis presumed.